The webpages say that Classic "highlights the natural color of the wood" while Natural is "designed to retain the appearance of unfinished wood" but having seen the raw, sanded wood which was remarkably gray, I don't know how the latter is possible. If neither does anything to your floor, the floor coating is at least in reasonable shape. Matte looks a bit dull. @Bongo. Question - is there a reason a floor may take or need less finish? its been so long since I posted - Id have to read through my old posts to recall the sealer we used. Why would you use Bona Nordic Seal (Bona productobviously) and then go with LOBA??? If you search my other discussions on this site, youll see how I flip-flopped so many times Corian, stainless, Neolith, D e k t o n, Quartz, wood (for the island top) and finally back to Corian. @Renee Czeryba, Natural SEALER and Traffic HD. If you are in the area, you may want to visit Cochrans showroom. It shouldn't if it's in good shape, but don't know what shape it's in, so figure i'd warn you. 3 coats of HD.I am OOT so will post photos when I get home. I talked to the contractor and told him that I had to figure out a different finish. They are *very* hard, and you will be hard pressed to find a coating that stands up to them), but it would tell you that the floor coating appears to at least be behaving. Here are some of my samples. That means you relate clean with shiny. You might want to do some reading regarding matt finish. I had some 2 x 2 Corian samples that kept calling my name. Bona Traffic finishes questions for people that have used it. I appreciate your pros helping on all these questions. If that's OK to do (ie I remember hearing it's a problem when you apply more layers like poly but I'm not sure) it might work for you. I'm sorry you felt diminished. 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If you are someone who loves the look of the 'raw floor' but you HATE the hazy look of NaturalSeal, then I HIGHLY recommend going with the satin. Thank you for your feedback. Unfortunately, we have put our kitchen reno on hold. The correct answer should be "nothing at all". 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I did a larger sample of Unico smoke, covered with their Titan (goes on with a roller) and tested it with salty water, red wine and vinegar. Don't change chemical companies in the middle of a refinish. Two things to do: First, drag your fingernail across it, see what happens. We are wrapping up our new build and the floor stain choice was today. Yes they can be 'walked on' after 3 daysbut moving furniture in is not ideal until 5 days have passed. Just a little darker then the natural rift oak. * I didn't know that Classic Sealer added yellow that Natural Sealer did not but I didn't have anything to compare it to. More great information. In your photos, it actually looks like your parquet is made solid squares, nicer to see larger woodgrain patterns instead of the 4 or 5 slat in a checkerboard pattern(each "tile" would have 12 or 14 etc total slats in one 1 sf "tile". My installer has Amber i think yhat will be too dark. A friend of mine had her red oak floors sanded and bleached to get the pink out and then sealed them. Here are some of my samples. Did you use one or two coats of the Nordic seal? How much should I expect the Traffic HD to change the color? Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. There are some finishes that are a 'high-gloss satin' but I don't know where Bona Traffic HD satin sits on the glossy or not gloss level. Please convince me not to settle with maple. are you happy with it 2+ years later (and is it holding up well with food/oil stains etc) please share any details, like if you had 2 or 3 coats. I believe you can put Titan on top of Pullman's and then Fortico on top of Titanif you like Pallman's colors. We were going after the Studio McGee house look attached. However, I failed to visualize the tan natural against the grey bathroom tile. The refinisher must take the time and the money to go to a Bona 3-day training work shop. @Jonathan Margareten Hi. We have just received a couple samples however and they haven't had the same look as some of the inspiration picture. W Spray Mop Kit EJD1462712 The picture I attached is with one coat of Bona Mega using no stain. And I do find myself wishing I had done 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD - just to give them more protection. I'd say the Rubio Smoke 5% was warmer, more golden, while the Unico Smoke was a cooler wheat, but they were very very close. Your floors are as important as your roof. Training costs money. It is a way for everyone to see how easy it is to misunderstand posts. Finished with three matte protective coats. WebBona NaturalSeal is designed to be the foundation or first coat of a three-coat water-based system, so dont just use it for all your layers, thinking you are being clever and saving money. There are a couple places where either a dogs nail or something created a tiny gouge all the way through to the wood - so the Bona is not impermeable. Someone else on here suggested Durasupreme. Thx for sharing. Dream Spaces: 12 Beautiful White Kitchens, Color of the Year: Off-White Is On Trend for 2016, Houzz Tour: A Beautiful Nordic Dream in Sweden, White Cabinets Remain at the Top of Kitchen Wish Lists. I did a lot of research before deciding on what product to use and how many top coats to use. It may not be the same price you would get if you buy it yourself from Cochrans. WebChapter IV - Four Eyes Were Reading the Passage I was running the head of my pencil-case along the line as I read it, and something caused me to raise my eyes. :), Absolutely gorgeous. 3 coats in one day. thanks, so much. Also, how many coats of sealer did you use? If so, they are normal surface marking, nothing to worry about. WebBona DriFast Stain is a premium quick-drying stain for interior hardwood floors. Can you add some white to the Renner System? Milesi Natural 2k? If so what brand and color was used? This is what G & S was responding to.a quick scan of your answer (I'm guilty of it myself some times) can give the impression that everything was done same day (which it wasn'tbecause I asked about the LAST coatnot the timeline to reach last coat). But maybe it is just old and scratched over the years? The sand/finish guys sampled natural seal, amber seal and IntenSeal. Thank you so much! I am in the same predicament and not wanting to settle for maple! It should have had one extra coat of protectant. trump2 would love to see the final product and what you chose, if your floors are finished. I recall having 3 layers - but my old post notes 4. If it does nothing: Take a piece of masking tape (not painters tape). Great photos and beautiful floors! A quick scan of my question and then a quick scan of your answer simply lead G & S to believe all 3 coats were put down same day.which happens more than you really want to know. Nice, eh?! I prefer to see 3 coats of the finishbut the Bona sealants are designed to be 'film building' sealants so they will add to the performance. Argh. Start reaching out to those stores that have 25+ years in the hardwood flooring industry. Windows for a 1920's Spanish style home in SoCali. Even Van Gogh couldn't do that! We only did two and are already seeing wear and tear on the first floor in our main living space. What is your installer recommending? Thanks so very much Shannon. white/grey countertops with light wood floor & stainless appliances. I dont want to hide the clerestory windows with coverings and dont like the strings that show with bottom-up shades (maybe OK for the bedrooms). I do have a lot of experience with these stones because I own a Granite, Quartz and Quartzite company. Fortunately, the installer is sending them back to the lumberyard to be replaced. And the Nordic seal was beautiful but it was a little cold and it didnt look as good next to a warmer paint color we plan to use. I also have some design software that may help with your need. Be warned the wood and multiple coats of Bona products really add up $$$$. Just seemed so right. No scrape, no scratch, no nothing. Out of curiosity what width floorboards did you use (and which manufacturer did you go with)? Right? New This Week: 3 Knockout Kitchens With Natural Wood Cabinets, Trending Now: 11 Popular Kitchens That Rock Not-White Cabinets, New This Week: 3 Welcoming White-Cabinet Kitchens, New This Week: 6 Stylish Not-White Kitchen Cabinet Colors, 4 Kitchens With White Cabinets and a Wood Island. Our hardwood installer and contractor use DuraSeal products often and Bona Mega. Oil wax floor finishes are poor choices for cabnet finishes. Also thank you for post and thank you too other posters. Weve been in the house with our two pups a little over a year now and the floors are holding up - so far, so good. Mega is the 'cheap' level of the Bona line-up. That's not what was happening. if so, the bank may be able to give you your money back if you dispute the charge for red oak and the install. We learned a lot from seeing the color and pattern differences between the American white oak and Norwegian white oak (and white oak from other areas). It looks like the grain is *very* deep on the board to the left. Buyer beware, you should be nervous. I'd love to know if you end up liking your final product and would welcome any photos! A 2 minute working time is EXTREME. Emily Henderson has a white metal railing in her split level home that is pretty gorgeous and widely photographed. Photos would be helpful. Also did the installer abrade between the seal & finish coats? Thanks so much in advance!! Very patient. My contractor recommended leaving it natural and using a Bona Mega finish which was supposed to dry clear. @mtpo - When will your floors be finished? Get ready for a LONG story! (Just read the dog drool threads.) LOVE, Blizzard fierce or butter soft, white can highlight shapes, unify a room and perform miracles on the cheap, Its typically the primary color in gardens. It may come in other thicknesses too. Founded in 1919, Bona offers products for most premium floor surfaces including I will report back once I have the application on a sample board. Quartzite gets a bad name due to companies mislabeling marbles, dolomites and sandstone. Hi! These are the LVP samples and my unfinished white oak stair parts. @tkgriff I love your floors and am thinking about going for much the same look! Those are STUNNING! Loba in any of its water based formats (low gloss keeps it from looking "finished") options will do exactly what you want. But maybe it is just old and scratched over the years? I got a quartz remnant for the tub area (a kinda white) in my hideaway bathroom and Ocean Jasper Quartz for the master ADA bathroom. He is a small shop and me and one other of his clients are the first to ask him for a "raw look" rift sawn white oak door. On their reactive stains and waxes: You can buy a sampler pack of both, or individual bottles. Paint them over a piece of white paper and the finish turns orange all by itself! less. If you like to see a shiny floor RIGHT AFTER you clean the floor (because it makes you feel like you've accomplished something) then you are what I refer to as a 'clean-shiny' person. The only design mistake in the house (IMHO) is this floor - the sample and photos looked so different!). 2 coats of Nordic seal & 2 coats of traffic HD ? If that does something, it's busted, you don't need to test further. I forgot to take a photo of the hand made air vent the installers made for the floor vent. That's when we discovered he had never used water basedand that was the light-bulb moment for everyone. What was really helpful to us is that the installer did lots of different samples for us and every new layer of the top coat changed how the wood looked. He can 'cut in' the edges of the floor with a brush, bite a sandwich, chew, take a drink, go toilette, come back and work the job with a T-barand STILL have time to go over several sections if it looks 'dry'. WebBona Natural Seal stain on white oak hardwood floor and 3 coats Bona Traffic HD Matte on top. Also hope this helps .. colors hard to see on monitor, I tested classic seal, white stain and Nordic seal as well. There's nothing wrong with making a minor mistake, nor with owning up to it. WebBona DriFast Stain mix of White and Grey with two coats of Bona NaturalSeal and finished off with Mega ONE on this beautiful floor by Beyond The Grain Custom Design with Territory Manager, Jeff Offredo, on site. Apply and wipe off excess. Are light white oak wire brushed floors hard to keep clean? First - The second pic you gave looks really weird. You should be able to try to scrape it (drag it hard across at any angle), dent it (press your nail in), etc, and nothing visible *at all* should happen. He had 15 years of experience doing only floors and was highly recommended to me. Otherwise time will turn the white oak yellow regardless of how it looks when freshly finished. So hand rail and newl postadvice would be appreciated! I'm actually impressed he is putting up with me and my ideas - lol. So I suppose its even better than 3 coats in 3 days as I originally thought given your advice. I also read on a hard wood flooring contractor's forum about how in the 1980s everyone's white floors eventually looked terrible because the inevitable scratches turn dark from dirt and look awful against the white. See the before and afters and why we chose this color. If you said you wanted the look of 'raw wood' then matte is what they would have brought. Ahhhh. Find the right local pro on Houzz to kickstart your project. Yes, Trump2 I agree. I'm going to guess that's what the rep was trying to explain Of course your refinsher will apply a sample of EACH sealer on your freshly sanded floors so that you can DECIDE on the one you like (and will include a coat of the HD finish in the gloss level you have chosen.so that you can be 100% SURE of what you are choosing). We got select I think its 3/4 thick and 7 wide. This is not designed to be the tough outer layer Not always as expected. Haven't made decisions on flooring yet, but I love white oak. Each to their own. How should I adjust these home plans to save $ or improve the layout. Don't test just with sealer. It is my impression that this as raw wood had less variation in color from one board to another and less pronounced grain and was a bit lighter than the American white oak or the other European white oak I saw. Double cost any standard stained finish. Is that really that difficult? And rubio makes a treatment for acid stains. My husband and I had 5" white oak floors installed and we are like the look of one coat of Bona Nordic Seal and two coats of satin water based polyurethane on our floors. A VERY trchnichally difgicukt finish yonachieve. Bona DriFast Stains are compatible with all Bona finishing systems, including waterborne. I have had the same inspiration kitchen photo for months. It has been a nightmare trying to find this look in my area. It will not etch like Marble, but has a marble like appearance. Some comments that NaturalSeal has a slight white cloudiness? I bought a cleaner made for the finish (similar to m quartz) and touch up is easy if needed. I could not get dog drool, LOLwe also scratched it and our current floors (factory oil urethane) with tips of a scissor to compare. Here are our raw floors right now. Carlyweiss, your post and pictures are so helpful for those of us in the choosing process. White streaks in floor. I don't want yellow - so thinking Natural or Nordic - but I'm worried about the white wash being too much. Based on the research I've done, Nordic Seal has a tendency to show white streaks on the floor. Did you put your deposit down on a charge card? In the finishing business, 'special' requires a bigger price tag. I have a dog that has an occasional accident. Floors are already sitting in the new house acclimating and I know that I am not cut out for the oil finish.). Installing an 8" plank with full spread glue is EXPENSIVE (the labour alone is intense). @skru33 Thanks! Unless you're certain the gaps developed AFTER installation, I'd suggest the possibility they may have been present all along. The stain alone does not protect the floors, just adds color. I could also put hot pots on the stainless. Most of the base cabinets are covered with cardboard to protect them. I love your base molding, where do you buy that from? Nordic seal has white pigments. If, Bona Mega is your budget. The real way this is tested is actually even meaner to the floor - normally you take a box cutter, cross-hatch the floor (IE cut it in a grid pattern), and then put the tape on it and rip it up. Many, many, many more professional grade finishes. I have some anxiety he didn't apply the poly in the correct thickness. He said mitering the edges is a nightmare (if you dont mitre, there is a white edge because the color doesnt go all the way through - at least the marble design I chose). All you have are tge home centers to choose from. They are still drying and look darker in the photos than they do in person FYI. Thank you. !Are you happy with the Satin? The 3 coats of finish (the expensive HD stuff) is the Gold Standardbut 2 coats + sealant is still very good. 2 coats at the right coverage is more than enough for low traffic areas. There is a haze to the floors as someone posted its most likely due to the matte finish. Seems quite excessive but want to make sure I understand before I bring this issue up. This helps our clients make up their minds before doing the whole floor. IntenSeal looked the best to me - darkening it enough to show the differences in the wood, but it seemed more tan/brown than yellow. In real life, they dont have as much brown as in the photo. Thanks for leaving this up. She lucked out and her floors look pretty good. @CEM TOSA It took me forever to decide on countertops. You need to start watered down, for they are strongjust take good notes of your ratios, LOL. Dont know if you can see much in this photo the brown paper is torn away under the island and an area of the floor shows there. @Ashley Your floors look beautiful. However, I guess Ill put off retirement for a few more years to make up the cost. white/grey countertops with light wood floor & stainless appliances? Its really helpful to see the product on YOUR wood. @Ryan Danielson what did you end up going with? Maybe instead of wanting it natural, I really wanted it lighter rather than a medium to darker stain. Im happy with the color. The info is helpful and Im discerning enough to sort out immature comments. We even "fumed" a few boards in a fuming tent, and they just didn't look as good as the waxes/oils. Home Layout Changes - Full Remodel - Please help me decide! If not, you can at least trivially test the floor: First. They make their final grit-pass and then they will place the colour samples down with a coat of finish. But they did just complete a project with Bona NordicSeal. Bona Craft oil 2K oiled floor in COLOR Air and dogs. Also, try calling high end custom home builders in the area and ask who they use.